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[macmutt]

Originally Posted by paintba||er

I could admit that it was a bad purchase if it was one. But it wasn't. I don't know how you can say that the 360 is more successful than a console that is doing almost exactly the same. The 360 is the better console now because it has been out for so long. But can you remember back when the 360 didn't have any good exclusives because nearly every game was just a port from a last gen game? The PS3 is at that stage, but it actually has some good exclusives. Not many, but there are quite a few compared to what the 360 had. And I will watch HD movies, and enjoy great games on my PS3 while you can only do the latter unless you spend $200 on a HDDVD player for the 360, but if you do that I will still have many more movies to watch, because Blu-ray pwns HDDVD. The fact that it can play movies is just a huge bonus and insurance that even if every game on it sucks ass (which isn't the case) it was still a great purchase. I can play any game that you can anyway since I have a 360 too.



I doubt that will happen since Kojima already said that it will only be on the PS3.

I do remember the 360 having a slow start, but not as far as a year after it's release, by the time the 360 was out 4 to 6 months it really started selling because the 360 was the very first Next Gen system to come out and people were thirsting for more advanced hardware in a console plus games like Oblivion and Gears were on the horizon and people knew it and so 360's were vanishing from store shelves.
By the way you might not believe this but i really could care less about playing movies on my game console, i have a dvd player for that, i don't care about hi-def movies or channels and i have a 40 inch LCD with an HDMI & HD-component jacks but i hook up my game console to the HD just to view games in HD, i can't stand people who buy a game console and use it to watch movies, in my opinion thats the biggest waste of money on a console i ever heard of.
That's like buying a ferrari and driving it no faster than 20mph on a rainy day, you just don't do it, but i guess if you have no games then you have no choice but to mention you can watch HD movies, yeah it's a nice perk, but i swear to you i have never ever once played a movie on a game system that i ever owned that was capable of playing movies, it's a "GAME SYSTEM" it's for "PLAYING GAMES", who the hell buy's a console to watch movies?
The PS3 will be out 1 year in November and i guarantee you it will be as far behind then as it is now, and it really is a damn shame, they went from dominating the console world with 2 consoles in a row for over a decade to losing it all with one over priced, over rated, over hyped, and very under achieved system. Oh i have no doubt that the PS3 will have it's share of AAA hit games most likely more so than the Wii, but will they ever catch the 360 or Wii in sales, i doubt it, maybe in the later years of it's life span but the chances of that are really slim.
Their 1st place reign is over they got too big for their britches and tried taking advantage of a loyal fanbase by charging through the nose for their portable and their PS3 especially and not only did Sony fans not buy it but they jumped ship to Microsoft & Nintendo and none of them are looking back.

[paintba||er]

Originally Posted by macmutt

I do remember the 360 having a slow start, but not as far as a year after it's release, by the time the 360 was out 4 to 6 months it really started selling because the 360 was the very first Next Gen system to come out and people were thirsting for more advanced hardware in a console plus games like Oblivion and Gears were on the horizon and people knew it and so 360's were vanishing from store shelves.

......Do you forget the chart? The 360 sold no better than the PS3 4 to 6 months after its release.

By the way you might not believe this but i really could care less about playing movies on my game console, i have a dvd player for that, i don't care about hi-def movies or channels and i have a 40 inch LCD with an HDMI & HD-component jacks but i hook up my game console to the HD just to view games in HD, i can't stand people who buy a game console and use it to watch movies, in my opinion thats the biggest waste of money on a console i ever heard of.

Would it not be a bigger waste of money if it didn't have the ability to play movies? You want a console that has less features than the hardware would allow? That seems like a waste. The console doesn't have to be used for movies, that is just an added bonus for those that want it. The PS3 has Blu-ray for games, not movies. But it would be stupid to have a Blu-ray drive in it and not allow it to play Blu-ray movies. That would be like having a gaming PC but not allowing it to browse the web when it is completely capable of doing so.

That's like buying a ferrari and driving it no faster than 20mph on a rainy day, you just don't do it

No, it is more like having a Ferrari that is completely usable to it's full extent, but the engine can be used as a computer and just buying the Ferrari would be cheaper than buying the computer, but it has both. (wow, that is such a bad analogy......)

but i guess if you have no games then you have no choice but to mention you can watch HD movies

But there are games. There are games and HD movies. HD movies are just an added bonus.

yeah it's a nice perk, but i swear to you i have never ever once played a movie on a game system that i ever owned that was capable of playing movies, it's a "GAME SYSTEM" it's for "PLAYING GAMES", who the hell buy's a console to watch movies?

Like I said before, playing games is still it's primary purpose, but it would be stupid not to allow it to do something it is completely capable of. This is where the analogy with the Ferrari that you mentioned would come in. If you buy the car primarily for racing or something you would still want to be able to drive it on the roads since it is capable of doing so.

The PS3 will be out 1 year in November and i guarantee you it will be as far behind then as it is now

I'm sure it will be as far behind as it is now......because it isn't far behind. It is selling nearly exactly the same as the 360 was.

and it really is a damn shame, they went from dominating the console world with 2 consoles in a row for over a decade to losing it all with one over priced, over rated, over hyped, and very under achieved system.

Hmm......how can a console be over priced when you are paying less than it costs to produce? 0_o Yes it was over rated and over hyped, but that is because everybody expected it to be as good as the PS1/PS2 compared to the competition, but the 360 is a much, much, more worthy opponent than the Xbox was.

Oh i have no doubt that the PS3 will have it's share of AAA hit games most likely more so than the Wii, but will they ever catch the 360 or Wii in sales, i doubt it, maybe in the later years of it's life span but the chances of that are really slim.

I don't think either of the consoles will ever catch the Wii in sales, but I do believe that the PS3 sales will be only slightly lower or nearly equal to that of the 360.

Their 1st place reign is over they got too big for their britches and tried taking advantage of a loyal fanbase by charging through the nose for their portable and their PS3 especially and not only did Sony fans not buy it but they jumped ship to Microsoft & Nintendo and none of them are looking back.

Their 1st place reign isn't over considering that PS2 sales are still pwning sales of every other console, but yes the PS3 isn't as far ahead (well, it isn't ahead at all so far) of the competition as it was the previous generations. I don't know how you can say that they are "charging through the nose" though since the console is worth much more than they are charging and they lose money on every console sold. I'm not sure if the PSP is over priced since I have no idea what it costs to produce them, but they suck ass anyway.....I wish I hadn't bought either of the handhelds this generation, they were both extremely disappointing. You brought up another interesting point though. Sony still has an extremely large fanbase that is much bigger than that of MS or Nintendo, but most of them are still happy with their PS2 and are waiting for the price to drop and the exclusives to come rolling out. Once the PS3 has been out for a while and the price is reasonable for the average person most of the PS2 users will probably switch to the PS3.

[macmutt]

(Paintballer wrote)
Their 1st place reign isn't over considering that PS2 sales are still pwning sales of every other console, but yes the PS3 isn't as far ahead (well, it isn't ahead at all so far) of the competition as it was the previous generations. I don't know how you can say that they are "charging through the nose" though since the console is worth much more than they are charging and they lose money on every console sold. I'm not sure if the PSP is over priced since I have no idea what it costs to produce them, but they suck ass anyway.....I wish I hadn't bought either of the handhelds this generation, they were both extremely disappointing. You brought up another interesting point though. Sony still has an extremely large fanbase that is much bigger than that of MS or Nintendo, but most of them are still happy with their PS2 and are waiting for the price to drop and the exclusives to come rolling out. Once the PS3 has been out for a while and the price is reasonable for the average person most of the PS2 users will probably switch to the PS3.

Ok first off PS2 would not even be selling as much if Sony never removed the Emotion Engine chipset from the PS3 and there by letting down their fans worldwide by removing backwards compatibility, that being said the other reason for the huge sales of the PS2 is the same as the Wii, it's really affordable and PS2 has a nice library of games, but time will put it into extinction soon enough because Sony won't always be able to support and manufacture 2 consoles for much longer, nor will developers devote any real time to an old gen console for too long.
That being said how can you think that Sony's fanbase is larger than the 360's, maybe in Japan yes but not here in the U.S. just check your charts on that, so i'm sorry if i needed to be more specific, so here ya' go
PS3 fanbase is huge and loyal in JAPAN, in the U.S. the clear winner is Microsoft, as for the Nintendo Wii it's just a cheap affordable console for kids and party games.

[paintba||er]

Originally Posted by macmutt

(Paintballer wrote)
Their 1st place reign isn't over considering that PS2 sales are still pwning sales of every other console, but yes the PS3 isn't as far ahead (well, it isn't ahead at all so far) of the competition as it was the previous generations. I don't know how you can say that they are "charging through the nose" though since the console is worth much more than they are charging and they lose money on every console sold. I'm not sure if the PSP is over priced since I have no idea what it costs to produce them, but they suck ass anyway.....I wish I hadn't bought either of the handhelds this generation, they were both extremely disappointing. You brought up another interesting point though. Sony still has an extremely large fanbase that is much bigger than that of MS or Nintendo, but most of them are still happy with their PS2 and are waiting for the price to drop and the exclusives to come rolling out. Once the PS3 has been out for a while and the price is reasonable for the average person most of the PS2 users will probably switch to the PS3.

Ok first off PS2 would not even be selling as much if Sony never removed the Emotion Engine chipset from the PS3 and there by letting down their fans worldwide by removing backwards compatibility, that being said the other reason for the huge sales of the PS2 is the same as the Wii, it's really affordable and PS2 has a nice library of games, but time will put it into extinction soon enough because Sony won't always be able to support and manufacture 2 consoles for much longer, nor will developers devote any real time to an old gen console for too long.
That being said how can you think that Sony's fanbase is larger than the 360's, maybe in Japan yes but not here in the U.S. just check your charts on that, so i'm sorry if i needed to be more specific, so here ya' go
PS3 fanbase is huge and loyal in JAPAN, in the U.S. the clear winner is Microsoft, as for the Nintendo Wii it's just a cheap affordable console for kids and party games.

PS2 sales have nothing to do with the Emotion Engine. They sold just as well before they took it out. And they didn't remove backwards compatibility. Like I said earlier, 80% of the games still work, and the ones that don't are mostly shitty ones that not many people play anyway. That and the European PS3s have never had the Emotion Engine. How can that be a reason the 360 is better anyway? The 360 uses software backwards compatibility too, plus they didn't have a huge amount of Xbox games in the beginning. So one of the reasons the 360 is better than the PS3 is because the PS3 now uses the same thing for BC as the 360 does? 0_o I'm not saying that the PS3 has a larger fanbase than the 360 since it obviously doesn't, but Sony has a much larger fanbase considering the amount of PS2 owners.

[B1GDADDYK00LA1D]

PS3 is garbage. If you have one, throw it in the trash.

[paintba||er]

Originally Posted by B1GDADDYK00LA1D

PS3 is garbage. If you have one, throw it in the trash.

It won't fit. :S

[TTR Dr Payne]

Originally Posted by paintba||er

it has the ability to be used as a PC, it can have more HDD space since you can replace it with a standard laptop HDD,

uhh...u can use a laptop HDD on a 360 aswell...

Originally Posted by paintba||er

it is much cheaper once you add all the accessories that it comes with that the 360 doesn't

the reason the 360 doesnt have all the accessories added in is because not everybody, actually, probably the majority, of ppl dont want them, and so they have the option to buy them if they want them. Lets look at me for an example. I dont have an HDTV, so why the **** would i want an HDDVD player? Why would i want to pay $200 for something that i will never use? That was M$'s exact thinking, not everybody wants it, so make it optional. Yes they could have used HDDVD disks for games, which would have been nice, but its not really necessary. Just look at the amazing games out right now

Originally Posted by paintba||er

So you like Viva Pinata and Bionicle Heros better than Resistance, and WarHawk? 0_o Unless you are talking about multiplatform games looking better on the PS3 in which case you are still wrong which you will notice if you were to play games such as The Darkness, or Oblivion.

that paragraph wasnt biased at all when comparing exclusives... Most multiplatform games look better on the 360, there are some that look better on the PS3, but the majority look better on the 360 atm. Thats not only my own opinion, but a lot of reviewers aswell(no im not going to go quote them, thats too much work)

Originally Posted by paintba||er

most things for the 360 are optional.

of course because not everybody like i said wants all the optional items and so dont want to pay the extra cash for something they will never ever use.

Originally Posted by paintba||er

Anyway, my purchase is already much more than justified. I would gladly spend $600 just to play the FF series

yea of course cause your freiking rich. Most ppl arent:p

Originally Posted by paintba||er

And even if it didn't have any games it is (well, was) the cheapest Blu-ray player in existence, so it would be justified to purchase one just for that.

actually if you pay attention, SONY themselves have a cheaper blu-ray player on the market. It used to be the cheapest, but then Sony reduced the price of one of their own blu-ray players to below the price of the PS3, making the PS3 no longer the cheapest blu-ray player.

Originally Posted by paintba||er

buying a Wii wasn't too good of a decision either.

the Wii as a single player console is not too great no, which i imagine is what you guys have been using it for. But have a bunch of friends over, and there is nothing you will have more fun on. If you only have a 360, or PS3, your going to be bored as **** when you have a group of friends over because all 360 and PS3 games suck donkey dick split screen. They are only good single player and Live. The Wii on the other hand, is exactly oposite. Not very good single player, but the most fun you'll ever have split-screen.

Originally Posted by paintba||er

From what I've heard that is largely exaggerated and the main person that spread that was some guy that was pissed off because Sony fired him.

as i said in the other thread, i have first hand knowledge from EA themselves saying this is true and its not BS from a pissed Sony employee.




macmutt, Forza 2 and the other 360 racing games ****ing pwn the GT series in the face so badly you couldnt believe it. So you dont have to worry about missing out on that exclusive title.

[Carmine457]

Originally Posted by paintba||er

It won't fit. :S

rotflol

[paintba||er]

Originally Posted by TTR Dr Payne

uhh...u can use a laptop HDD on a 360 aswell...

But it voids your warranty, there isn't really any advantage to it since it has to be a certain HDD and you have to hook it up to a PC and transfer stuff from your old HDD to the new one, ect. You can just push a HDD in the PS3 no matter what brand or how much storage space, and you don't have to go through any strenuous steps since it is meant to be done.

the reason the 360 doesnt have all the accessories added in is because not everybody, actually, probably the majority, of ppl dont want them, and so they have the option to buy them if they want them. Lets look at me for an example. I dont have an HDTV, so why the **** would i want an HDDVD player? Why would i want to pay $200 for something that i will never use? That was M$'s exact thinking, not everybody wants it, so make it optional. Yes they could have used HDDVD disks for games, which would have been nice, but its not really necessary. Just look at the amazing games out right now

1. Why the fuçk would you want a 360 if you don't have an HDTV.
2. The point of a next gen storage format isn't for movies, it is for the games.
3. It will be necessary in the future. DVDs had a lot more space than used at the beginning of the PS2's life, but now they are completely filling them. The 360 games are already filling them. They have no room for expansion, so the games can't really get much better since if they improve the graphics it will take up more space and the games will be shorter, and to have long games the graphics and stuff can't be too good. And I have a feeling that MS was think $$$ rather than what people want.



that paragraph wasnt biased at all when comparing exclusives... Most multiplatform games look better on the 360, there are some that look better on the PS3, but the majority look better on the 360 atm. Thats not only my own opinion, but a lot of reviewers aswell(no im not going to go quote them, thats too much work)

of course because not everybody like i said wants all the optional items and so dont want to pay the extra cash for something they will never ever use.

yea of course cause your freiking rich. Most ppl arent:p

Dammit, not this again.

actually if you pay attention, SONY themselves have a cheaper blu-ray player on the market. It used to be the cheapest, but then Sony reduced the price of one of their own blu-ray players to below the price of the PS3, making the PS3 no longer the cheapest blu-ray player.

Actually, if you paid attention you would have seen the "(well, was)"

the Wii as a single player console is not too great no, which i imagine is what you guys have been using it for. But have a bunch of friends over, and there is nothing you will have more fun on. If you only have a 360, or PS3, your going to be bored as **** when you have a group of friends over because all 360 and PS3 games suck donkey dick split screen. They are only good single player and Live. The Wii on the other hand, is exactly oposite. Not very good single player, but the most fun you'll ever have split-screen.

Ya, the Wii is excellent for multiplayer, but who honestly plays multiplayer (not including online) more often than single player/online?

macmutt, Forza 2 and the other 360 racing games ****ing pwn the GT series in the face so badly you couldnt believe it. So you dont have to worry about missing out on that exclusive title.

Forza sucks! But I'm not a huge fan of GT or any other realistic racing games either.