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Old 03-29-2008, 03:36 PM   #1
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A couple of weeks ago, I purchased a USB Plug and Play Charger Kit. Upon receiving it, I inserted the battery pack and got 10 mins in before it died (ok, so the pack wasn't charged), simple solution, plug the cable in. So plugged the cable into the controller and the USB end into the 360.

10 mins later, the light changed from red to green (indicating it was fully charged), so I removed the cable and went back to wireless (though I did think the short charging time was a little bizarre), sure as anything, 10 mins in, the controller died. I then charged it for 4 hours, got 30 mins in and the controller died again - so contacted the seller and got a replacement pack and cable.

Received this last night and charged the pack as soon as I took it out of the pack, it was done in 2 mins, I got 30 mins into a game and pack was already down to 50%, I charged it again, it charged for 10 mins then turned green. This time I got 2 hours out of it and when I checked the guide button, the battery was down to 1 bar.

At 1 bar after 2 hours, there is no way this thing could last another 16 hours (it is rated at 18 hours max game play when charged). So charged it, it charged for 40 mins then turned green. I haven't tried it again today, but doubt it will last much longer then 3 hours.

What I want to know is, why is my kit taking 40 mins max when it is supposed to take 3 hours+ and why is it lasting 2 hours when it is rated for 18 hours?
 
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Old 03-29-2008, 04:26 PM   #2
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Im not sure what the Problem is.
I would try it in a different USB Port... on the back or something to identify if your unlucky and got two broken Charging Kits or your USB ports are Faulty.
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Old 03-29-2008, 04:33 PM   #3
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I doubt it is the USB ports, have tried several on my computer and 360, all produced the same results.
 
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Old 03-29-2008, 05:23 PM   #4
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I doubt it is the USB ports, have tried several on my computer and 360, all produced the same results.
Well Im guessing that the only problem could be with the Charger
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Old 03-29-2008, 06:10 PM   #5
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Well, one thing to consider is that the 360 isn't very good at detect how much battery is left...just try playing until it turns off to see how long it lasts.
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Old 03-29-2008, 09:36 PM   #6
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Well in a test this afternoon, the controller lasted a full 150 mins before it needed recharging. So I plugged it in, it recharged for 10 mins before turning green - a friend of mine suggested that the battery discharges when not in use and that considering I had, had it unplugged from the charger for 12 hours after charging it, it might have depleted that way - which I find highly unlikely.
 
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Old 03-30-2008, 12:22 AM   #7
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from the sounds of it, its the rechargeable battery pack itself, and not the plug and charge kit. If the charge kit is saying its fully charged, and then within a couple hours the battery is flat again, that would seem to hint at the battery pack simply isnt holding its charge.
How long have you had the battery pack for?

I would suggest if you have access to another battery pack, try using that one and see if the problem persists. Also, if you have a friend who has a 360, you could lend him your plug and charge kit and see if he has any issues charging his controller with it.
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Old 03-30-2008, 01:21 AM   #8
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from the sounds of it, its the rechargeable battery pack itself, and not the plug and charge kit. If the charge kit is saying its fully charged, and then within a couple hours the battery is flat again, that would seem to hint at the battery pack simply isnt holding its charge.
How long have you had the battery pack for?

I would suggest if you have access to another battery pack, try using that one and see if the problem persists. Also, if you have a friend who has a 360, you could lend him your plug and charge kit and see if he has any issues charging his controller with it.
I have left the unit charging until the green light comes on (times have varied depending on how long it takes for the green light to show). Now heres the thing, when the battery has been partially charged, it has lasted for a couple of hours or so before dying (which isn't unreasonable when you consider charging time was 40 mins max, as opposed to the 6 hours it is meant to take). So I am thinking the cables are at fault in both packs.

I have had the battery pack a couple of days now. I only have access to two battery packs and two cables (the original one which was faulty and the one in question which is the replacement). As for testing it on another console, I have tried that on my mates and it took the same length of time - thus ruling out problems with the USB ports (also tried it on the computer for good measure though I think I mentioned this further up).
 
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Old 03-31-2008, 05:31 AM   #9
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you seem to have just repeated what you said before, and not really responded to what I said...I was saying, and from what you said there, it really makes it seem like it, that the USB cable is completely fine. From what you are saying, It seems like the rechargeable battery pack is faulty and not holding the charge.

If your friend has a 360, take his rechargeable battery pack, and give him yours. Use each others pack for a couple weeks or some length of time at least, and charge his pack on your charge cable and see whether it holds the charge, or whether the battery dies within the same length as time as you said yours was dieing. If his battery pack lasts the same length of time as yours did, then the USB cable is the problem, if his battery pack lengths the amount of hours its supposed to, then your battery pack is the problem.

Understand?
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Old 04-04-2008, 12:10 PM   #10
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you seem to have just repeated what you said before, and not really responded to what I said...I was saying, and from what you said there, it really makes it seem like it, that the USB cable is completely fine. From what you are saying, It seems like the rechargeable battery pack is faulty and not holding the charge.

If your friend has a 360, take his rechargeable battery pack, and give him yours. Use each others pack for a couple weeks or some length of time at least, and charge his pack on your charge cable and see whether it holds the charge, or whether the battery dies within the same length as time as you said yours was dieing. If his battery pack lasts the same length of time as yours did, then the USB cable is the problem, if his battery pack lengths the amount of hours its supposed to, then your battery pack is the problem.

Understand?
I have waited until now to respond as I have been waiting for the Quick Charge Kit I ordered to arrive. I do understand what you are saying, and to test out the problem, ran all 3 battery packs down till they died (the 2 supplied with the plug and play and 1 supplied QCK). Then placed the 2 plug and play batteries into the QCK, they did not even start to charge. Tested to see if the QCK was at fault by placing its own battery into it, it started charging almost immediately.

So I now know where the fault lies, and as I have just discovered, the plug and play kits are both third party.
 
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Old 04-05-2008, 02:37 PM   #11
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i think i know your prblem its the battery pack look here

http://blogs.pcworld.co.nz/pcworld/p...op-mk2-top.jpg
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you just need to change and that it happend to me yesterdy bought new today
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